According to the Skagit Valley Herald and KomoNews , Carri Williams is back behind bars for violating her No Contact Agreement with her adopted son. For all posts on this story, please see my Hana Alemu “Williams” tag.
Christian arguments against the Pearls' teachings.
According to the Skagit Valley Herald and KomoNews , Carri Williams is back behind bars for violating her No Contact Agreement with her adopted son. For all posts on this story, please see my Hana Alemu “Williams” tag.
As you probably know, today is the day set aside in the United States for giving thanks to God. Therefore, I would like to devote today’s post to doing just that.
First of all, I am very thankful to God for my life and my salvation which He has given me instead of what I deserved.
I am also thankful for my family, friends and church.
I am thankful for Gentle Christian Mothers for teaching me a more healthy way of thinking and for the fellowship there. If it were not for Gentle Christian Mothers, this blog would not exist.
I am thankful for Rebecca who convinced me to allow her to make this blog for me. Without her this blog would still be nothing but a webpage.
I am thankful for my writers and for all the bloggers to whom I have linked, without them this blog would be small indeed.
And, of course, I am thankful for my readers, without them there would be no purpose for this blog.
All the glory to God.
I have great news! A like-minded person purchased the domain http://nogreaterjoy.info a while ago and after not getting around to making the site finally found mine. By the grace of God, that URL now redirects to this one. So, if anyone finds WhyNotTrainAChild.com hard to remember, they can give out NoGreaterJoy.info instead. :-D
By the way, if that url gets enough sites linking to it, it will show up on the first page of a Google search for “No Greater Joy.” ;-)
In other news, Steph is working on her next series, The Effects of Spanking. Please pray that God will be glorified and that He will use her series to help children and their families.
Every now and then I get a comment telling me that I am assisting the enemy by speaking badly about other Christians. As I said in a recent comment, I do not speak badly about other Christians, I offer Biblical Arguments against False Teachings. And now, Glenn from The Watchman’s Bagpipes, explains why False Teachers are dangerous and must be publicly denounced.
Note: As far as Glenn’s list of false teachers goes, I have not read his posts about each one which I am sure contain his reasons for branding them as such. If you have questions about his list, please search his blog for his reasons.
Here is a link to Ted Hildebrant’s article in the Grace Theological Journal 9.1 (1988) 3-19, Proverbs 22:6a; To Train Up A Child? which analyses what “To Train Up A Child” really means.
Here is a short quote from the intro:
Careful consideration of lexical and contextual factors suggests that “train up a child in the way he should go” needs to be reexamined. The verb “to train” really refers to a bestowal of status and responsibility. The noun translated “child” denotes the status of a late adolescent rather than a child. “In the way he should go” is best understood as “according to what is expected.” The original intent then of this verse addresses a late adolescent’s entrance into his place in adult society.
As he did not study the word for Rod, this article does not change his ideas about spanking. He does, however, come to the conclusion that the verse does not advocate early childhood training. He also reminds us that it is a Proverb, not a promise, which is something to keep in mind.
His final conclusion is this:
The parent must not violate the adolescent’s personhood by authoritarian domination, permissive allowance of immaturity, or overprotection from the consequences of his actions.
I must make note of the fact that his Hebrew words were transliterated Right to Left so that they read, “backwards” for us. If you want to read a better version of this article, you may read it here, but you will have to subscribe to the site first.
The Christian Post has a review of Debi Pearl’s Yell and Tell series. This is a positive review but unlike most I’ve seen, they don’t promote her other books nor link to their website. I wonder if they are aware of the controversy around them.
For another opinion on the series, see TulipGirl’s review. Hers is the 3rd on the page at this time.
Today we celebrate the greatest wonder of all. God came down to Earth, clothed in human flesh in order to pay for our sins. In honor of this day, I would like to share this poem that my sister in Christ wrote.
The greatest gift was given so many nights ago,
he came to us lying in a manger, wrapped in swaddling clothes.
He could have came as royalty as he deserved
but yet he choose this path because he came to serve.So when your life gets weary and you feel you been pushed to the test.
Remember Jesus and the life he lived at best.
He gave with all he had, and never stopped till death.He could have snubbed his nose at those with crippled feet,
he could have said he was too good for stopping to cleanse another’s feet.
Yet he did so lovingly and showed us how to truly love.
He showed us the example to love one another and serve each other.So this Christmas just remember as you unwrap each gift.
The greatest gift has been given.
As you enjoy each treasure here on earth,
just ponder what a greater reward lies in heaven
for those who love this man.
As you sit down to reflect on all that you have.
Glance around at your family and be thankful for their love.Thank the Lord for every good thing in your life and stop to ask what you can do.
To serve one another for this is very true.
Humble yourself as the babe that came that Christmas morning.
Look around the world and see what you can do.Let the spirit of Christmas remain through out the year.
Don’t leave it in December when the lights are on the tree.
Carry this season with you through the year.Merry Christmas everyone
—Heather Joy Maynard 2010
Not that I fly often, but there is no way I would fly now. Have you heard about these atrocities? Were you aware that if you fly, your choices are to go through a scan which lets someone view very graphic scans of your unclothed body (as well as exposing you to radiation) OR allow someone to touch your intimate areas? While I have no plans to fly soon, I am shocked and horrified for my brethren who do have to fly. It sickens me that so many people are accepting of this and I appreciate everyone who is speaking out. I am adding my voice here. This is just wrong and must be stopped. TSA says that they are receiving very few complaints. Probably few people know how to complain. Let’s get the word out. Anyone who has a complaint should read this.
Here is an article which explains how hard it is for the TSA staff involved as well as highlighting some abuses.
Here is an article comparing TSA staff with the Milgram Experiment.
Here is a first person account of a man who experienced the “enhanced pat down.” He says that if he were a woman he would have felt violated.
Here is an article about how a sanitary towel prompted TSA to grope a sexual abuse survivor.
Here is an article about how a mother was held in a glass cage for almost an hour for resisting over breastmilk.
Here is a reminder of what we teach our children about Saying No to inappropriate touching. How can we reconcile this advice with what TSA is doing? TSA says that they will no longer search a child under 13. I hope they all will honor that guideline and not make up their own rules (as they did with the breastmilk guidelines), but what about our teenagers?
Thank you, Lord, for saving my soul
Thank you, Lord, for making me whole
Thank you, Lord, for giving to me
Thy great salvation, so full and free.
This old chorus expresses well the first and main reason for my thankfulness. I am also thankful for so much more.
I am thankful for my life, for my family and for the way God is using me.
I am thankful for this blog and the many people who have let me know that God has used it to help them. It never fails to humble and amaze me when I see that God is using me in this way.
I am thankful for Rebecca Diamond who God used in a mighty way to allow me to move this site to Word Press. I am also thankful for everyone else who God has used to build this blog by writing for me or allowing me to link to the words which God has laid on their hearts.
And, of course, I am thankful for my readers whom God has used to share my posts so that more might learn.
Thank you. <3
JeriWho has written a very interesting blog about Psychology and The Fundamentalist Christian at Blog On The Way. Her premise is that while rejecting Psychology for being “atheistic, Darwinistic, and utterly secular,” they tend to embrace behaviorism which is also atheistic and unbliblical. She makes some very good points here and gives much food for thought.
I have come across a discussion of Michael Pearl’s book, Good And Evil, which is a comic book version of The Bible.
Actually, she mainly discusses their efforts to turn this graphic novel into a feature film and the video designed to raise funds for that project.
‘Good and Evil,’ the Graphic Bible, Considered With Dismay, by Stephanie Varnon-Hughes
Thriller Author has written a blog post at HubPages called Why Churches Are Failing.
This is a rather harsh wake up call for all Christians to consider and I believe that it is warranted. The Pearls’ teachings are mentioned in passing along with Ezzo’s.
I don’t know exactly what these HubPages are but I notice that they also have a positive review of To Train Up A Child. Needless to say, I do not agree with her conclusions of this book. It looks like members of this Hub can vote for the pages and affect their ratings. Hmmmm . . .
For more realistic reviews of To Train Up A Child, please see my list of reviews.
I feel obligated to post the information that the Pearls are working on a new book about protecting children from sexual abuse. Debi Pearl posted that info on her blog at http://www.debipearl.com/blogs/blog/1740302-cultivating-cautious-chicks-protecting-children-from-predators. I found this post through my Google Alerts which hit a thread on Free Jinger about how said blog post was altogether wrong in its information about chickens. http://freejinger.yuku.com/topic/2475/t/Pearls–Writing–New-Book—Know—Chickens–Children.html
I have to admit that I have mixed feelings about this news. I believe that many of their teachings do make a child vulnerable to abuse and therefore is is good that they are addressing that. I hope that the advice they give turns out to be useful advice and will end up protecting children rather than hurting them more as much of their advice does.
Update: Debi Pearl is releasing a children’s book designed to prepare and protect children from sexual molestation and it actually looks pretty good.
Update Nov 2010: The book, Samuel Learns To Yell And Tell has been released. Here is TulipGirl’s review of the book. If you are not familiar with TulipGirl, please see my sidebar for a link to her site.
C. L. Dyck of Scita Scienda has started a new Bible Study series about being a women called, Woman In The Hands of God.
She does not yet have an index for this series, but she does have a tag. So you can find the entire series so far by using the Woman In The Hands Of God Tag.
If you are posting here or on many other WordPress blogs and have wondered how to get a custom avatar, just go to Gravatar.com and make one. If you don’t, you will get some kind of placeholder, usually a mosaic or a monster.
Signs of Life blog warns us about the Pearls’ teachings and offers some Parenting gems as an alternative.
Scita > Scienda is asking for your help in choosing the cover art for their book, Parenting in the Name of God.
In other news, here is an article from the Paradise Post about the upcoming court hearing today. I’m sure there will be more news to come, which I will post separately. Note: When this article is no longer available on the web, the summary will still be here.
Pastor Matthew Raley looks at “rebellion versus God-led character formation” in The R-Word.
(A big thank you to C.L. Dyck for the link and the wording for this post.)
I have been trying to figure out how to use this site. As you may or may not know, I have moved into this blog from my old website at a time when it was down. A dear friend helped me to take this step. <3 I have moved my old links over and am trying to arrange them to make them easier to find and use. Also, as this was meant to be a place to find Christian arguments, I need to decide which links do not serve that purpose and remove them.
It has occurred to me that people who subscribe to my feed do not know when I add a link since I have been adding to existing posts. Of course, I add them to the Facebook page, but I realize that not everyone has or wants access to that.
Therefore, I have decided to start this blog section. When I add a new link, I’ll announce it on the blog as well as adding it to the existing post.
Edited to add: I don’t use this blog that way anymore. I now just add new links and use the categories and tags to order them. It took me a while to really understand how to use this site.
Edited to add: I am using the Blog category for anything which does not fall under one of the other categories.
It looks like the interview has been shelved indefinitely. It’s quite likely that all the calls and emails caused CBS to rethink this and/or decide to expand the story. They will cover the story, but are saving the interview for a later time. It looks like they want time to investigate this more.
NoGreaterJoyChildren is on their email list and always has the latest news.
Please read Spunky’s blog post on this.
This Thursday, March 18, 2010 Friday, March 19, 2010, Michael Pearl will be interviewed live on CBS’s The Early Show some time between 7 and 8 AM (probably about 7:30).
More info at NoGreaterJoyChildren.com and update here.
No Longer Quivering has some good insights about it, as does Spunky.
Barbara at Mommy Life says, Urgent: Michael Pearl on Early Show tomorrow – contact CBS now!
If you wish to contact CBS, here is their contact info.
Emma at GCM has the following advice for those who wish to get involved:
I wonder what would happen if as many people as possible who can give an informed opinion on Michael Pearl emailed and/or phoned CBS…
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I’m in the UK, so I don’t know how much clout my email will have, but I might email anyway and point out that MP has influences in other countries besides the USA.
The following might get CBS’s attention:
- The fact that MP misrepresents what the Bible teaches, and that even most pro-spanking Christians would consider his teachings abusive – “This isn’t a debate about spanking, it’s about exposing blatant, cultlike child abuse.”
- The cultlike aspects of NGJ – followers encouraged not to listen to critics. The way his followers say, “His teachings look harsh when you read them, but you have to see him in person …” quite frankly reminds me of 1930s newsreel footage of Adolf Hitler’s followers…
- The fact that he tells people to take the KJV at face value and accuses those who want to check original word meanings of scripture-twisting.
- Any examples you know of where MP takes scripture out of context even in English. This would help expose the ridiculousness of the above! It’s also a powerful way both to warn other Christians about him, and to reach Pearl followers – “exit counselors” who help rescue people from religious cults use this a lot if a person has respect for the Bible. I haven’t read MP’s stuff in detail, but if he’s anything like the RGT website it shouldn’t be hard to find examples.
- His unorthodox ideas – no original sin, possible to live a life of “sinless perfection” in this life, the idea that children can’t respond fully to the Gospel/receive God’s forgiveness under age 13 or so (or whatever age it is he says), and of course the idea that the blood of Jesus is inadequate in itself to cleanse a child’s heart from sin/guilt.
- The fact that he believes an unwhipped child can’t feel forgiven and will suffer emotional problems caused by a sense of guilt. (Say “whipped”, not “spanked” – most people’s idea of a spanking isn’t MP’s.)
- Any contradictions you know of, eg the discrepancy between MP’s folksy-fun manner and the fact that “trained” by his methods is anything but fun. Also, I’ve noticed that MP followers on forums tend to trot out the line, “You don’t need any other parenting book than the Bible,” then in the next sentence they recommend MP’s book!
- Quotes about things like sitting on children, counting slowly, stopping mid-whipping to talk about how the whipping isn’t over yet, following the child around the house laughing at his/her efforts to avoid the whipping, etc…
- The fact that he encourages older siblings to whip younger siblings.
- The fact that he says there is no upper limit to the number of “licks” a child may receive (give quotes).
- Experiences of ex-Pearlites, explaining the effect following these teachings had on your family. Also how you came to realize how anti-scriptural and wrong his teachings are.
- Links to blog articles by people who knew the Schatzes, especially pointing out that, despite the abuse they were suffering, the children seemed happy, sociable and creative – attributes MP says are a sign that a child isn’t being abused.
- The almost unbelievably insensitive statement the Pearls have issued, laughing at those who would cite his teachings as being instrumental in little Lydia’s death.
(Edited to add that if you write in bullet points it’s more likely to be read all the way through. Also, both beginning and ending on an attention-getter can be very effective.)
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