Consequences and Examples

Dara Stoltzfus discusses the influence we have on our children in What Do Your Kids See You Doing?

While you’re at Dara’s blog, you will also want to read, her very thought provoking post, Kids need consequences to learn right from wrong, don’t they?! in which she considers two possible responses to a child stealing and considers which would teach the child more.

Babies, Children and Sin Nature

Stephanie just started a new blog called The Shepherd’s Apprentice.

In her first post, she explains about the sin nature of babies and children and how we should respond to it.

She then posts about Selfish Babies or rather, if there is such a thing.

She ties it up with a look at Sin, How To Get What You Want.

Not bad for her first day.  ;-)

When Gentle Discipline Fails

Dulce de Leche looks at how Gentle Discipline Failed Her. Or did it?

Along similar lines, MamaPsalmist considers the Gift of a Willful Child.

And Dara Stoltzfus continues her look at how she was spanked and did NOT turn out OK.

More Fruits of Gentle Discipline

Dara Stoltzfus shares more fruits of  gentle parenting.  This fruit says that You’re Not a Failure.

Also, consider her post about Being punished for venting.

Punishment Works?

Claire, over at Dare To Disciple, continues with her Myth Busting series with Punishment Works.

When a Toddler Won’t Obey

The Hippie Housewife shares 3 Ways to Respond to a Toddler Who Won’t Listen.

Raising Children to Not Accept Abuse

Dara Stoltzfus shows us how we can raise children to not see abusive behavior as normal in Wives With Knives.

Dara Stolzfus has many other excellent posts. I have already linked to many of them. I must now link to this post about Consequences and how we react when we mess up.

While I’m at it, I will also link to another interesting post called Looking Up.

It’s Not Always Easy

Carissa Robinson shares that Gentle Parenting is not always a bed of roses and how to get through the hard times in Bumbling Along.

An Exampling of Parenting by Jesus

Dulce de Leche hosts a post by Samuel Martin on the topic of How Jesus Would Parent,  in which we look at an example of Jesus using Gentle Parenting.

Raising a Spoiled Brat?

Rebecca Diamond explains why she is not worried about raising a spoiled brat in He’s A Spoiled Brat – And I’m Proud Of It!

The Fruit of Gentle Discipline

Molly shares a beautiful story about the fruit her gently parented 3 yr old is already displaying in A Soft Answer…

Discipline without Harm Part 4

(Part 1) (Part 2) (Part 3)

In the last piece we saw how to set flexible yet solid boundaries and limits by which young children can abide.  We also learned why using affirmations and encouragement with children is better than praises and rewards.  And finally we saw that using natural and logical consequences with children helps them to be able to take responsibility for their actions.  Again, it is important for us to remember that all the discipline strategies in this series are biblically supported, and are effective when used consistently and in conjunction with each other.  In this piece we are going to discuss how to figure out the need behind unwanted behavior in order to help our children fulfill that need.  We will also discuss regression in children and how to deal with it in a positive manner.

Fulfilling Needs—“Why is my child behaving this way?”

Many Christians, as we have seen throughout all of my series, believe that most of children’s unwanted behaviors are due to their sinful natures. They place so much emphasis on keeping children’s sinful nature in check that they forget, ignore, or deny the fact that God created children to develop the ways that they do, and that young children do not set out to sin.  They are learning about their worlds.  The more we understand child development and how God designed children, the easier it will be for us to guide and discipline (teach) our children.

From infancy, children have needs that must be met in order for children to thrive.  Since young children have zero to limited vocabulary in the first few years of life, they cry and find other ways of trying to communicate their needs to us.  As I’ve discussed in many of my series, an infant’s crying is not manipulative.  Infants’ brains do not allow them to be able to manipulate us.  A toddler will test limits, but will also try to communicate their needs by acting out as they still lack vocabulary and are just beginning to learn how to appropriately express themselves.  [Read more...]

Discipline without Harm Part 3

(Part 1) (Part 2)

Throughout this series we are discussing ways of disciplining children that are more in line with what God had in mind.  All of the discipline strategies in this series are very effective when used consistently and in conjunction with each other.  They are all biblically supported and sound.  And none of these methods, when used properly and respectfully, will ever cause any harm to children.  In this piece, we will look at how to set appropriate limits and boundaries for our children by which they can abide.  We will see that allowing children simple choices and giving appropriate alternatives for inappropriate behaviors also help children comply with our limits and boundaries.  Next, we will see why using encouragement with our children is better than using rewards and praise.  Finally, we will discuss using natural and logical consequences with children.  Consequences are not the same as punishment.  And discipline should not be equated with punishment.

Setting Limits and Boundaries—“Three Basic Rules for Life.”

We all need limits and boundaries in our lives for without them life would be very chaotic.  This is especially true for children as this world is too overwhelming for them to handle on their own.  Children feel most secure when they know what the limits and boundaries are.  In fact, young children will test limits and boundaries to make sure that the adults in their lives will enforce them.  “Children need secure, loving boundaries in order to feel safe, just as adults need a house with strong walls and a roof to feel protected from the weather.  [Read more...]

More about Teaching

The Hippie Housewife explains the Basics of Gentle Discipline, focusing on Teaching Skills which makes a great follow up to yesterday’s post on Teaching Babies. She offers skills to prepare babies and children for the future.  As she explains:

These future-oriented solutions provide the child with skills that will be used throughout and beyond childhood. The focus is on developing the child’s own internal control rather than on managing behaviour through external control, thereby assisting the child in navigating life in a way that keeps their dignity intact.

She also links to some very helpful posts to provide background which I also recommend and have linked to in the past.

Note that this post is part of the 2012 Carnival of Gentle Discipline which you can find at the bottom of the post.

Safe Place

The Hippie Housewife reminds us of the important place we hold in our children’s lives in this beautiful and thought provoking poem. <3

And in a similar vein, Dulce de Leche discusses helping our children feel safe to express their sadness.

Thou Shalt Not Kill The Spirit of Thy Children

Dulce de Leche continues her 10 Commandments for Parents series with Thou Shalt Not Kill. In this post she discusses how parents often kill pieces of their children’s individuality.

Also, take note of this post by Sara Mae which looks at The Nature of A Child and why we should respond to their tantrums with grace.

Teach Your Children Well

The following was originally posted in thread on Gentle Christian Mothers called, “…And I’m the Strict One!“.

Well, ladies, do you know what’s a show-stopper in a nicely chatting group of Christian Mommies?

It’s when the strictest parent there casually mentions that she doesn’t spank. Here’s the circle of my friends and acquaintances when I mentioned it:  :-o   8-O   :-?

Friend 1:  :-o   “You don’t???”
Me: “Yeah, I used to, but I haven’t in a long time.”
Friend 2:   8-O “Really?”
Me: “I try not to do anything harsh at all, really.”
Friend 1: “Well… but… your kids are angels.”
Friend 2: “Some kids just don’t need it.”
Friend 1: “Yeah, I had one that spanking didn’t work for.”
Friend 2 to 1: “It’s not the right tool for every child.”
Friend 1 to me: “You can leave if you want to, if you think it’s cruel.”
Me: “No, I just think it’s unnecessary.”
Friend 2: “Well… you’ve got angels.”

Conversation continues on which kids “need” it, with lots of “funny” stories. Apparently, their various children’s persistent poor habits means the Mom should do more of what they are already doing (spanking), but the consistent excellence of my children has nothing to do with my methods: they were born that way.

Do these people really believe random selection gave me two angels, that I never had to really parent ‘the hard way’ — while they received an assortment of challenges my methods could never meet? I should extra-respect them for raising more difficult children, beyond my scope of experience? Even if they “have to” hit these challenging children, and even if hitting them isn’t showing any benefits!

(someone asks me to clarify what I mean by “strict.”)

Ok, here’s another tidbit of reality then: my husband is often unwell, and, with rare exceptions, that makes me the only “responsible adult” in my family. That means that, since I can’t handle (much) chaos, I can’t allow it.

I have lines of painters tape on my floor outlining “kitchen” in my open-plan home. Children don’t cross those lines when I am cooking. They haven’t for years. If my daughter woke up this morning to find painters tape barring them from exiting their own bedrooms, they would, I am dead sure, stand there and call me, “Mama? Why us this here? Mama, can I cross the tape? Mama, I need to go potty!” To me, strict means that they would automatically treat a line of tape as a physical barrier.

Of course, I worked on that: with gentleness, and repetitiveness, and role play — and consistent re-enforcement.

My friends don’t see that particular example — but they do see kids who come when they are called, follow instructions, deal with their disappointments without (often) being disruptive about it, obey limits when playing under slight-supervision circumstances, clean up their areas (with reminders), handle their own belongings, and sit quietly when nessisary, and they respect other people’s bodies and boundaries.

These things do add up to some impressive kids: but we worked together to learn each important skill, one skill at a time.

Since, one would assume, you “can’t” get results like that from being permissive, I “must” be punitive out of the public eye, or they must be natural angels.

Now, I do know that some kids are “harder” than others. I’m not saying that all kids who have trouble behaving because of parenting — I’m just saying, in this situation, the idea of how such characteristics appear to be distributed by family isn’t logical.

(Someone asks me what would be the consequences of crossing the tape)

The tape is a training aid — I spent a lot of time teaching, “This is the kitchen” / “This is not the kitchen” / “See the tape” / “Step into the kitchen” / “Step out of the kitchen” — “Yay! What a brilliant toddler you are! You know all about the kitchen!”

Then there was the, “Hey, now, where are you? Is are your feet in the kitchen? How can you tell? Am I cooking? How can you tell? Where do your feet need to be? Yay! That’s the right place for your feet!” It’s a practical application phase — and I was very diligent to catch and re-teach every time.

And that’s really all it really took. The consequence of transgressing the tape is merely to be shown your error and guided to solve it.

I suppose if there was blatant disregard of what I was saying, I’d probably physically lift the child to the correct side of the line. Then I’d tell them (quite pleasantly) that they were now in the right place, and go over the teaching phase again (while holding the child still if necessary). I’d give a direct instruction that their feet needed to stay on ‘that’ side of the line, and set the child free — or initiate a distraction.

If it happened again and again, I’d probably move the child further and further from the line, using a less pleasant voice. If necessary, it would end with the child being put in another room. It might go so far as resulting in a cold supper, since I was prevented from being able to focus on my cooking.

But that hasn’t happened to me. It’s just what I imagine I’d do if I needed to. I haven’t encountered many situations where the kids didn’t pick up the skills I needed them to pick up, just by teaching and consistently working through transgressions until they really ‘got’ it.

Consequences come into play once a child clearly *has* a skill, and is capable of reliably using that skill, even under stress. That’s when ‘teaching’ has done it’s work and you have a child who is choosing between compliance and non-compliance by free choice (not ending up not complying for the more natural reason — that it’s genuinely hard for the child to do what you want them to do).

If the ‘to do’ is *not* genuinely hard any more, then you are in territory where consequences need to be considered.

Honestly, I can’t remember the last time I was in ‘that place’ with my kids. Mostly I spend my energy trying to work with the child to understand a situation, so they can handle what I want them to be doing. Once they can ‘handle’ it, usually they don’t object to doing it just because there’s no reason not to do it.

I do things like “if you can’t handle being here, we will leave” — which is something like a consequence, sometimes… but not really. Because (a) if a child really can’t handle a situation, it’s *kind* to leave that situation, so it’s not a threat to ‘do better or else’ it’s just a statement of how you plan to parent through a tough situation. BUT there’s also the other possibility — (b) that the child can handle themself better, but wasn’t trying very hard. Then the desire not to leave the situation plays a motivational role in helping the child pull themself together and raise their standard of behaviour.

I really like this double-pronged approach, using consequences that are a form of ‘unwanted assistance’ — if the problem is ‘beyond’ the child’s skill, the consequence will help them cope better -and- if the problem is ‘within’ the child’s skill, the consequence motivates them to bring all their skill to the table and make a good try at handling things well.

Making Sure They Learn Their Lesson

I really believe that most parents get no pleasure out of spanking their children and do so only so that they will “learn their lesson.”  But what does spanking children really teach them?  I have seen many testimonies of adults who were spanked as children who did not learn what their parents meant to teach them.  Some of those testimonies can be found in this discussion at Gentle Christian Mothers.  But wait.  Can a child really learn without corporal punishment?  Here is a memory from David H.  Roper who learned a very important lesson without being spanked or even yelled at.  After reading both the discussion and the devotional, take a while to reflect on this question:  would he have learned the same lesson if the person who heard him say that word had spanked him, yelled at him and/or washed his mouth out with soap?

Dara Stoltzfus has a post about this same topic regarding The Lion King.

Discipline without Harm Part 2

(Part 1)

In the last piece we looked at how Proverbs 22:6 means to discipline children in a way that works with them instead of against them.  God is not an adversarial Parent to us, therefore, we should not be adversarial parents with our children as we are also sinners and actually sin more than our children do.  The purpose of this series is to learn how to discipline our children in a manner that will lead them to God instead of away from Him.  We must provide gentle yet firm discipline to our children.  In this piece we will look at how to validate feelings, deal with temper tantrums, and why we shouldn’t use time-out as punishment but instead use something known as “time-IN” to help children calm down in a helpful way.

Validating Feelings—“It’s My Party and I’ll Cry if I Want to!”

Many people fail to realize just how much of an emotional life infants have right from birth.  The young infant feels happy, sad, angry, and scared.  But because crying is the only way of communicating their feelings, many infants do not get the validation that they require.  Tragically, some infants are ignored and/or punished for crying.  It is very important to understand that infants’ emotions are also their needs, and those needs must always be responded to in a sensitive and respectful manner.  “It seems wise for caregivers to make the assumption that infants of all ages have feelings, since it helps us to understand their needs.  The interventions we make that are consonant with our interpretations of infant emotions often seem to have the intended effect.  We pick up a crying baby to soothe what we believe to be the child’s pain or discomfort as much as to stop the crying, and the subsequent relaxation of the infant confirms our belief about his or her feelings” (Fogel, 2011, p. 280).  [Read more...]

Trusting Enough To Let Go

Pearl in Oyster (PIO) continues her 52 Tool Cards series with Letting Go.

A Typical Gentle Day

The Hippie Housewife shares A day in the life of a gentle mother.

A Closer Look at Obedience

Molly, from Adventures in Discipline, takes a closer look at Obedience.

Your Attitude Towards Your Children

Rach at the Incorrigible Gingers discusses how labeling children can be harmful in My Toddler Is Not Bad.

On a similar note Aubry, of My Offerings, discusses healthy and unhealthy attitudes towards children in Why Potty Training Changed My Life.

And Dulce de Leche continues with her 10 Commandments for Parents series with Honor Your Father and Your Mother in which she also discusses the difference between obedience and compliance.

Looking Back It All Went By So Fast…

Vita Mutari looks back at 17 years of being a mother and shares her reflections and advice for new moms in, Left to cry…alone.

Is Your Parenting Based on Fear or Faith?

Carissa Robinson compares Fear-Based and Faith-Based Parenting.  Which one one do you think glorifies God?  Which one do you use?

For more help, check out this post by Pearl in Oyster (PIO) about how we can use our God-given hormones to help us parent better in Oxytocin and “Time In.”

Discipline without Harm Part 1

In this series we will be looking at how to biblically discipline our children without inflicting pain on them or harming them in any way.  Some of the discipline strategies that we will be discussing throughout this series are modeling, child-proofing, validating feelings, fulfilling the child’s physical and emotional needs, setting realistic limits and boundaries, helping children comply, giving choices, and using natural and logical consequences with children.  The Bible says that we are to encourage each other (2 Corinthians 13:11).  All of the discipline strategies in this series do exactly that with our children.  In this first piece, we will be discussing authoritative parenting versus permissive parenting.  We will also discuss how to child-proof, modeling, and introducing God to our children.

Authoritative versus Permissive Parenting—Not Spanking does NOT Mean Wild, Rebellious Children

Pro-spankers often accuse or claim that parents who do not spank or use any type of punishment with their children of having wild and rebellious children.  This simply is not the case for parents that use the authoritative parenting style.  There seems to be much confusion over the three types of parenting styles.  We discussed the authoritarian parenting style in great detail in Part 6 of my series, “The Effects of Spanking.”  As we begin to focus on how to gently but firmly discipline children, we need to examine the other two parenting styles: authoritative parenting and permissive parenting. [Read more...]

Avoiding Adversarial Parenting

Molly explains Adversarial parenting and how to avoid it in What punitive is apart from spanking….

Testing The Waters of Gentle Parenting

Aubry Grace posts an update of how her change to Gentle Parenting is going in Grace Parenting: 6 Months Later.

More Gentle Parenting Tools

Dulce de Leche continues her Opening Up The Gentle Discipline Toolbox Series with Opening Up the GD Toolbox: Redirection and Mutual Solutions and Connection.

Pearl in Oyster (PIO) discusses why we should watch out for Pampering.

Simplify Your Life By Deciding What You Will Do

Pearl In Oyster (PIO) shows us what Deciding What You Will Do looks like as she continues her 52 Tool Cards Series.