Doug Phillips Being Sued By Former Nanny

Doug Phillips stepped down last October after admitting to an inappropriate relationship with a woman.

On March 27, the Christian Post reported that he was threatening his closest friends of conspiring to destroy him.

On April 14, WND reported that Lourdes Torres, Doug Phillips former nanny, was suing him.

Vision Forum denied the allegations on their Facebook wall.

Bill Gothard In The Spotlight After Abuse Allegations

World Mag Reports that Bill Gothard has been placed on administrative leave while they research recent  allegations of abuse.

Sarah Pulliam Bailey has an investigative report on this story on ReligionNews.com and here is the story from the Christian Post.

Naturally this story has impacted many people. Here is a testimony from Micah Murray which reflects on this news as he looks at Growing Up in Bill Gothard’s Homeschool Cult.

 

The Christian Post Looks At The Petition To Amazon

The Christian Post reports that the Change.org petition (asking Amazon to stop selling the controversial book, To Train Up A Child) is closing in on 100,000 signatures. They then take a closer look at the Pearls’ teachings and the controversy surrounding them.

Vision Forum Ministry Closed

Spiritual Sounding Board tells us that The Board of Vision Forum Ministries Announced the Closing of Vision Forum Ministries.  Again, this is the Non Profit Ministry.  It is business as usual at the For Profit side of Vision Forum.

Here are some news stories and blogs about this story.  I will add more as I find them.

Vision Forum to Close Down Following Doug Phillips’ Admission of ‘Inappropriate Relationship’ in the Christian Post

An Infidelity Scandal Just Shuttered a Major ‘Biblical Patriarchy’ Organization in the Atlantic Wire

Vision Forum Ministries Closing by Calulu

Married leader of controversial Quiverfull movement which promotes family values resigns and shuts down ministry after having an affair in the Daily Mail

Under Much Grace looks at Fallen Cult Leaders and explains how they work in Follow the Leader: Con Artists and Cultic Leaders Have No “Off Switch.”

Debate with Pearl in The Christian Post

Back in March of 2012, Jan Heimlich debated Michael Pearl in a video which was featured in The Christian Post.  Although, I did mention the debate at the time as well as Samuel Martin’s Rebuttal to one of his statements, I never gave my own rebuttal.

I would like to respond to some of Mr. Pearl’s statements.  Rather than transcribe his comments myself, I will use the quotes given in the Christian Post article.

… In our book, To Train up a Child, we clearly point out that parents should not spank when it doesn’t work; they should not spank when they’re angry. We point out that they should spank five or ten licks, no more. And we point out that the spanking should be in accordance to the size of the child. We point out they should never leave marks.

I really don’t know where he says not to spank when it doesn’t work. I would appreciate some help with that.  All I can find is him saying that if you are consistent, it will work.  Here is an example from To Train Up A Child (TTUAC)

 Those who are MOSTLY consistent must use the switch too often. Those who are ALWAYS consistent come to almost never need the switch.

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Reflections on the Williams Trial

As I reflect with sorrow and horror at the tragedy which was the Williams Trial, I find myself trying to make sense of what happened and why.

What I see as the root problem is pride. The Bible says that God hates pride.  We know that “pride goeth before a fall and a haughty spirit before destruction” (Proverbs 16:18).  I believe that very few people would argue with me when I say that Carri Williams had a problem with pride.  I heard her described as a person who had to be always right.  She was said to have perfect children.  People described her as intimidating because her children were so perfect.  I was told that when someone disagreed with her, they had a hard time confronting her because she had a reputation for a very cutting tongue.  So, when people had concerns about how she was raising her children, they just withdrew away from her and left her alone. What else could they do? She would not listen,  and she certainly would not accept help.

I’m not sure how and when she found To Train Up A Child by Michael Pearl. [Read more…]

Rebuttal to Pearl’s Statement About “Traditional Child Training.”

Samuel Martin has posted a rebuttal to a quote Pearl made during his debate with Janet Heimlich in The Christian Post.

Pearl Debates Heimlich in The Christian Post

The Christian Post reports on and shows the video of the debate about Biblical Chastisement between Michael Pearl and Janet Heimlich.  Be sure to read Teri’s rebuttal to Pearl in the comments below.

Speaking of debates, when Christian Today took their stand against spanking, they were criticized by Author and theologian Denny Burk.

‘Marriage for Today’ Hosts Defend Michael Pearl’s Teachings.

An article in The Christian Post reports that ‘Marriage for Today’ Hosts, Rev.  Mike Fox and his wife, Trisha, have been using the Pearls’ teachings to raise their daughter and are scheduled to appear on CNN to defend Michael Pearl.

Because Christians did not stand up and condemn the dangerous teachings of the Pearls, they ended up in the public eye.  I had always had a policy of keeping them a secret from non-believers and focusing on Christians, but once the third child died, the proverbial cat was out of the bag.  I do not make a habit of linking what the non-believers say about Pearl since they do not make arguments which are relevant to Christians, however, when the Washington Post reports on the Pearls I figure that is of interest as it is part of mainstream news.  I see many more in smaller papers to which I do not link, but a simple Google search will find if you are interested.  Some search terms to use would be, “Pearl Controversial book” or “Lydia Schatz Pearl”

Update:  The ‘Marriage for Today’ Hosts have a new article on The Christian Post about their appearance on Anderson (aired Dec 2, 2011).  The comments on this article are very interesting.  I agree with many of the commenters that it is very unusual for a pro-spanker to quote someone from the Christian Domestic Discipline movement to give credibility to their arguments.

 

Discussing Pearl on “The View” and NY Times Story Spawns

ABC News has a story called Child’s Death Raises Questions About Biblical Disciplinary Teachings which includes testimony of someone who was raised under Pearls’ teachings and how it affected her under  a video of the discussion of Pearls’ teachings on the View.

The NY Times story has spawned many blog posts and articles. Most of them are just brief summaries so I will not bother to link, but a number of them are worth a look.

Amy Graff of the San Francisco Chronicle posts Godly spanking turned deadly: Is a Tennessee pastor to blame?

Lorraine Dusky posts on the First Mother forum, Adopted children killed by their parents as they “train” them .

Gwen Dewar, Ph.D. of Baby Center posts Deadly abuse inspired by preacher’s “training” manual?

Koa Beck of Mommyish posts Parents Demand Abusive Childrearing Book Be Pulled From Amazon.

Allison Summers of The Christian Post posts Texas Judge ‘Beating Video,’ Child Rearing Book Spur Debate on Discipline Versus Child Abuse
and to balance it out they also published Evangelical Preacher Defends Child Training Methods Reportedly Linked to Deaths by Luiza Oleszczuk.

Margaret Hartman of Jezebel posts Pastor Still Advocates Using ‘The Rod’ After Third Child Dies

C.L. Dyck of Scita Scienda gives her Thoughts on the New York Times and Mike Pearl.

David Usborne of the New Zealand Herald posts Focus on preacher after children die.

There is an interesting discussion on the NY Times article in the Snopes.com forum.  (If linking to this thread in anyway violates any forum rules, please message me at hermanalinda@whynottrainachild.com)

Tony W. Cartledge of Baptist Today News Journal posts Spare the hose?

The Week.com summarizes the debate using many of the previous links in To Train Up A Child: The book that’s leading parents to kill?

Yep, the news is really going mainstream and people are talking about it, which makes for some Intense Conversations as Leslie in Costa Rica discovered and posted about on her blog, Real Child Development.