Prosecutors Still Trying To Verify Hana’s Age

According to an article in the Skagit Valley Herald, prosecutors in the Williams court case are seeking Hana Alemu’s uncle to testify to verify her age. Her body was exhumed for that purpose, but the examination proved to be inconclusive. The reason they need her age is that the charge they are trying to prove is only valid for children under 16 years of age.

I should mention that in the Remembrance of Hanna Williams group on Facebook there is a scan of Hana’s Baptismal Certificate as well as a higher quality version a member fixed.  I should also mention that Hana was born on March 8, 1997 (1/8/1989 according to the Ethiopian Calendar which is different from ours.)  She died on May 12, 2011.

More Looks at Michael Pearl’s Teachings

Michael Pearl’s teachings are being discussed in the blogosphere again.

Rick Morton responds to Jonathan Merritt’s Analysis of Michael & Debi Pearl’s “Child Training” & The “Adoption Fever” Dialogue in this post.

Morgan Guyton discusses Why He Would Fail Michael And Debi Pearl’s Parenting Class.

The Pearls in the Religion News

Jonathan Merritt has published an article about Michael and Debi Pearl on ReligionNews.com entitled, How Influential Are Michael and Debi Pearl?  And How Harmful? He only found out about them recently but has apparently done his homework very well.

Death by Submission

Misty Horner passed away in 2007 from an infection she sustained in an unassisted homebirth. Her husband and the cult they followed did not allow her to seek medical intervention during the 31 days it took for her to die. Her parents filed a wrongful death suit against her husband, Caleb Horner, his brother, John Horner and their cult which teaches extreme submission. You can read about the verdict in the El Dorado Springs Sun. This story is also covered by Fox TV. This is the first time I have heard of this story which was finally brought to my attention because the Sun article mentions Michael and Debi Pearl’s book, “Created To Be His Helpmeet.”

Old excerpts from this story can be found here.

In January of 2012 Caleb filed a wrongful termination suit against the city of Lee’s Summit which let him go after the death for which no criminal charges were filed.  I cannot seem to find any news stories with an update about this suit.

Update: Feb 15, 2013 Misty Horner wrongful death lawsuit: Horners want new trial after $108M ruling.

More Details About Williams Latest Hearing

As reported yesterday, the Williams had a court hearing on Wednesday, November 28,2012. The Skagit Valley Herald has a more detailed report on that hearing today.

Also, here is a report I missed on Wednesday from Komo News. I had not heard that the Birth Certificate could not be trusted because it is from Ethiopia. I gather that means that the Baptismal Certificate I mentioned yesterday is also not valid in the eyes of the court.

Hana’s Body To Be Exhumed

According to a recent news story in the Skagit Valley Herald, Hana “Williams” will not rest in peace. The court has granted the prosecutors permission to exhume Hana’s body in order to prove her age. This is important because the charge of homicide by abuse only applies to victims under 16 years of age. According to a scanned baptismal certificate on the Remembrance of Hanna Willams Facebook page, Hana was born on March 8, 1997 (1/8/1989 according to the Ethiopian Calendar which is different from ours.) In this same hearing, Larry and Carri Williams pled not guilty to the new charges of manslaughter by domestic violence which I assume was added to the case for back up in just in case prosecutors are unable to prove homicide by abuse.

Linda Thomas has a very good synopsis of the case at MyNorthWest.com.

Also, Q13 Fox Seattle Tacoma also has a write up of the case.

Hana “Williams” Body Might Be Exhumed

According to a recent article in the Skagit Valley Herold, prosecutors in the Hana “Willams” Case want her body exhumed in order to back up charges against her parents. In order to charge the Williams with Homicide by Abuse, they must prove that Hana was less than 16 years old and they can find no documentation of her age and therefore wish to examine her teeth and bones in order to verify her age at the time of death. The hearing to decide this will take place Friday, November 9, 2012

Update:  This decision is being postponed.

 

Update on Williams Court Case

The Williams Court Case is in the news again.  This story in The Komo News reviews what happened to Hana Alemu “Williams” and how charges came to be filed over a year ago and brings us up to date with where the case stands now.  For more info about this case, please see my Hana Amelu “Williams tag.

According to this news story:

Hana’s death also plays a prominent role in a new report ordered by the governor’s office on the severe abuse of adopted children. The state doesn’t do any background checks or home checks on international or private adoptions, and is looking into standardizing those procedures.

The report referenced can be found here, but remember that as it discusses this case and other severe abuse cases, it is probably not for the faint of heart.

I do not have the recently released DSHS report, but I do have the very disturbing sheriff’s report which was released last year.

 

 

Rejecting The Pearls

Calulu reflects on how and why she rejected the teachings of “To Train Up A Child,” in Parenting & the Super Religious.

Is Debi Pearl to Blame?

Livinginblurredlines shares how the advice in Debi Pearl’s book, Created To Be His Help Meet negatively affected her marriage.  However she does not want to put the blame on Debi Pearl saying,

Blaming Debi Pearl’s “Created To Be His Helpmeet” book for what I am going through is like blaming a cookbook for your burned dinner.

I’m not so sure I agree with that. If the cookbook tells me to cook the dinner for 30 minutes at 350 and I cook the dinner for 3o minutes at 350 and it burns, I’m going to warn people that the cookbook has some bad information in it.  Sure, I should have kept an eye on the food and noticed if it started burning and saved my dinner.  But whether I saved my dinner or not, the cookbook has shown itself to contain unreliable information and people should be warned about it.

That said, she makes some  good points, especially that one should look to God first and foremost.  Amen.

More on Created To Be His Help Meet

Sheila Wray Gregoire discusses Debi Pearl, Wife Abuse and True Submission in Submission Doesn’t Mean Lying Over And Taking It.   The discussion in the Comments is also very interesting.  It was there that I found he following link:

Natalie at Dusty Feet has been working on a very detailed book review of Created To Be His Help Meet.

Williams Trial Postponed Until Feb 2013

According to the Skagit County Herald, the “homicide by abuse” trial for Larry and Carri Williams is now scheduled for February 4, 2013.

Discussing Tim Challies’ Reviews

Recovering Grace promotes Tim Challies’ review of Created To Be His Help Meet. Also, someone brings up his review of To Train Up A Child in the comments and discussion of the Pearls ensues which might be of interest to my readers.

Also, White Stone, of Wanna Walk Along, discusses Tim Challies’ Review of To Train Up A Child while explaining exactly why she blames the Pearls’ teachings for the deaths of 3 children.

Sarah’s Arguments Against Spanking

Sarah, of Under the Olive Branch, explains why she does not believe in spanking in a well researched and chatty post entitled, A person’s a person no matter how small.  She also answers some common arguments for spanking with counter arguments, which many will find helpful.

Challies reviews TTUAC

After his review of Created To Be His Help Meet a few days ago, Tim Challies has decided to review To Train Up A Child, which he does in 2 parts:

Tim Challies Review of To Train Up A Child Part 1 in which he looks at training versus discipline, and his concerns with Pearl’s training.

Tim Challies Review of To Train Up A Child Part 2 in which he looks at the innocent child, the redemptive rod, and gives his conclusion.

The Williams To Be In Court July 27

Habtamu Bekele posts on the Remembrance of Hanna Williams Facebook page:

Carrie and Larry Williams (Hana’s acused murderers) will appear in Mt Vernon Courthouse this coming Friday July 27th. The Greater Seattle Area Ethiopian community will be there as Hana’s advocate and family. We would like to show the court as well as Carrie and Larry that we want justice for Hana. If you want to go please come to The Ethiopian community center at 8323 Rainier Ave South at 7AM in the morning on July 27th. We will take the community van and if we need more transportation we will add cars. If you want to go please call Mulu @ 206-427-3831 to confirm.

In case anyone is wondering, this court date is for, “Order To Continue Omnibus Hrg.” The trial is still scheduled for October 1st of this year.  If anyone with legal experience cares to translate the info I just gave you, please leave it in a comment and I will edit this post.

Update: This hearing was continued to 08-17-2012.  Note that continuances are totally normal in every kind of trail and to be expected in a serious case such as this one.

A Complementarian’s Concerns With Created To Be His Help Meet

Complementarian Tim Challies analyses Debi Pearl’s book, Created To Be His Help Meet and points out his concerns with the teachings therein.

Part 1 looks at the harsh and critical spirit and the foolish counsel.

Part 2 looks at “poor theology, poor use of Scripture and far too little gospel.”

This is an excellent review to share with complementarians.

But They Look So Happy

Home Educating Family Magazine has published an opinion piece about the Duggars and the teachings they follow (Gothard, S. M. Davis and Pearl) called, They Smile, but Do They Laugh?

 

Is This Good Christian Parenting?

Ruvin, who blogs at By The Hui, has grave concerns about the Pearls’ teachings. She explains why in This is Christian Parenting?

 

1st Anniversary of the Death of Hana

Today, marks one year since the tragic death of little Hana at the hands of those who called themselves her parents.  If you visit the facebook group dedicated to her memory, you will see photos of her grave.  Notice that her grave is lacking a headstone.  The group is looking into the possibility of rectifying that situation.  This is an open group and you are welcome to join.

I reported back on April 20 that Carri was back in jail.  She went back to court yesterday, May 11, 2012 and her bail was set at $300,000 bail.  Now a search of the Skagit County Jail Current Inmate List no longer shows her name, which suggests that she might have managed to come up with the  bail.  Either that or she could have been moved or there could be an error.  I’ll keep my eyes out for more information.

 

Leaving The Patriarchy Movement

Becky at Created To Be His shares her testimony of how she fell into the false teachings of the patriarchy movement and the Pearls’ and the lessons she has learned since then.

Carri Williams Back In Court

Go Skagit has more info about Carri Williams and the reason for her re-arrest.   Apparently she tried to contact her foster son through a classmate, thereby violating the court’s No Contact Order.   The first anniversary of Hana’s death is coming up on May 12.  All posts about this case can be found here.

Update:  As of May 14, 2012 she is out on bail.

Carri Williams Back in Jail

According to the Skagit Valley Herald and KomoNews , Carri Williams is back behind bars for violating her No Contact Agreement with her adopted son.  For all posts on this story, please see my tag.

 

Book Review of The “Child Training Bible”

Laura, of Peace Of The Prairies, reviews the Child Training Bible.  She shares what she likes and doesn’t like about it and how she turned her copy into a positive parenting tool.

Christian child abuse: more works-based carnality

Churchmouse has posted an extensively researched look at Spiritual and Physical Abuse in Christian child abuse: more works-based carnality.  This is a long piece and well worth the time it will take to read it.

Pearl Debates Heimlich in The Christian Post

The Christian Post reports on and shows the video of the debate about Biblical Chastisement between Michael Pearl and Janet Heimlich.  Be sure to read Teri’s rebuttal to Pearl in the comments below.

Speaking of debates, when Christian Today took their stand against spanking, they were criticized by Author and theologian Denny Burk.

Michael Pearl’s Appearance on Dr. Drew

As I posted 2 weeks ago, Michael appeared on Dr. Drew’s Lifechangers on Feb 21.  I have just found that entire segment of the show on YouTube so I wanted to share it with you.  I  was pleased to see that one of the guests explained the results of cortisol on the brain and how it can cause damage.  They also discussed that one can discipline without spanking.

Michael Pearl and the Spanking Debate (Part 1)
Michael Pearl and the Spanking Debate (Part 2)
Michael Pearl and the Spanking Debate (Part 3)
Michael Pearl and the Spanking Debate (Part 4)

CNN Story on Christian Talk Radio

Jeri, the Owner of Gentle Christian Mothers, just sent me an interesting link.  This is a Talk Radio Show about the CNN coverage of the Schatz Story from Aug 18, 2011.  The half hour show is called, Issues Etc. and the host is Told Wilken.  After playing the audio of the CNN show, he accepts calls and emails from his listeners to discuss the question, “Is Spanking Required in the Bible?”.  His conclusion seems to be that it is not mandated but neither it is prohibited.   The key to him is discipline.

And in the latest news about the Pearls, they just released a new book.  I see that Amazon is not at all concerned about the Petition.

6th Anniversary of Sean Paddock’s Death

We mustn’t forget Sean Paddock. </3

Another Interesting Quote from Pearl

My friend, Rebecca Diamond, brought this quote from Michael Pearl to my attention.  It is from his website: Rodless Training from June 1999 (emphasis mine):

“There will be times when a spanking is appropriate. But you are prevented! Then use your power as the caretaker and dispenser of all privileges and responsibilities to make his actions totally counterproductive. If you can’t spank the flesh, starve it with an embargo. Stand your ground and do not let the little fellow find satisfaction in his pursuits. Stay on duty, demanding obedience until he surrenders his will to your persistence. If there is a way to deny him access to some means of indulgence that relates to the offense, then by all means as governor of the island on which he lives deny him normal privileges until he complies.”

The reason I find this quote so interesting is that the bolded reminds me so much of the Williams Tragedy. For more posts about the Williams see here.