A New Rod Study Starting

Jeanne, from Family That Matters, is starting a new Rod Study based on Samuel Martin’s book, Thy Rod And Thy Staff They Comfort Me. I’ll be linking to each chapter here.

Why using the rod on your child and spanking is not found in the Bible: An old truth in a new light. (Part 1)

Part 1 is also available in German, Spanish and French.

Why using the rod on your child and spanking is not found in the Bible: An old truth in a new light. (Part 2)

Part 2 is also available in German, Spanish and French.

Why using the rod on your child and spanking is not found in the Bible: An old truth in a new light. (Part 3)

Letter to A Pro-Spanker

The Melting Mom has written a letter to her pro-spanking friend to explain what she has learned about gentle parenting. This is a fantastic letter and I know that you will find it helpful.

I would also like to remind everyone that Gentle Christian Mothers is a very good place for mothers who are seeking to be gentle to find support.

More Reasons Not To Spank

Here are 2 new articles which explain why a Christian should reconsider spanking.

12 Biblical Reasons To Reconsider Spanking Your Kids By Shannon Wasie

6 Reasons Why We Changed Our Mind and Stopped Spanking by Sallie Borrink

I Was Wrong to Tell You to Stop Spanking Your Kid: An Open Letter of Apology…

I was wrong. You heard it here first.

That time. At the mall. You hit your kid and I told you it wouldn’t help anything and asked you to stop.

That was really dumb.

Not because I’ve changed my mind and decided we should hit kids, but because I know better. That approach I took almost never works. After all, you were quite young when we had that conversation. I remember when I was young, whenever someone told me to stop doing something, it motivated me all the more to keep doing it. And I could spout off 37 reasons why I was right and they were wrong. I’m sure you did that in your head that day.

What do I wish I had done? [Read more…]

What does the Bible REALLY say about spanking?

Eminent American Biblical Scholar Professor James D. Tabor looks at spanking in the United States and what the Bible really says about spanking in Spanking Children: The Bible Tells Me So?

 

Questions for Pro-Spankers

Here are 10 questions to ask those who believe that the Bible commands us to spank our children.

A Father Of Four’s Journey To Gentle Discipline

Samuel Martin has shared a lovely letter from a father of four boys who decided to give up spanking after reading his book.  Here is a short excerpt.

…What mattered was that the Bible told us to spank. I figured we would talk it through and I would defend the biblical position. In my mind, if God said it, it was true (“Romans 3:4 “let God be found true, though every man be found a liar”). I wasn’t expecting what she hit me with. Every biblical argument I offered, she countered…

So, You Think Spanking Is OK Because You Turned Out Fine?

Samuel Martin has a new blog post entitled, “So you think corporal punishment/spanking/smacking is ok because you turned out fine: Think again”.

Why Heather Schopp Stopped Spanking

Heather Schopp explains how she came to give up spanking in this testimony shared on Samuel Martin’s blog. This blog post is part of a Facebook discussion found here.

Dara Stoltzfus has this and other testimonies here.

Changing Minds About Spanking

Samuel Martin looks at who is changing their minds about spanking and who is not.

In other news, I have added a bunch of links to my post about the Resignation of Doug Phillips so you might want to take another look at it.

Where Did “Spare The Rod And Spoil The Child” Really Come From?

Do No Harm has a post at News 24 in Cape Town explaining what Spare The Rod and Spoil The Child really means.  He also links to Samuel Martin’s book which is available as a free download here.

Samuel Martin Explains About Biblical Times

Samuel Martin is trying to help people understand the difference in how people thought in Biblical times and now because this is crucial to understanding the Bible.

He discusses Michael’s book, To Train Up A Child in Should we preach? publish?, or proclaim the Gospel – Yes? No? Maybe?

He also has a post on Dara Stoltzfus’ blog about Gender Space in Biblical Times which I believe you will find interesting.

 

Jesus, the Greatest Superhero

Samuel Martin looks why Paul The Apostle did not use Proverbs and Parables in his teachings.

Dara Stoltzfus considers becoming more like Jesus, the Greatest Superhero.

Download Thy Rod And Thy Staff They Comfort Me: Christians and the Spanking Controversy

Click Here to download the book
Great news!  Samuel Martin has graciously allowed me to host his book, Thy Rod and Thy Staff They Comfort Me: Christians and the Spanking Controversy.  This is a FREE ebook which you can download at any time and share with your friends. All applicable copyright laws apply.  For more info about the book, please see these 22 Testimonies about the book.

After reading this book, please send your thoughts to Samuel Martin at info@biblechild.com.  He really wants to hear both your critiques and your testimonies.

To open the book, please click on the image of the book on the right.        ————>

You will need Adobe® Reader® in order to view the book.  You can download the newest version here.  Mobil Users can download the mobile version here.

You can read the book on this site or save it by clicking the Save icon which looks like a floppy disk.  You can also save it to your computer without opening it by right clicking on the  image  and selecting Save As.

If you need more help, please write to me me at HermanaLinda at Whynottrainachild.com

If you want to convert this PDF for your Kindle, I found some options.

Disclaimer, I don’t have a Kindle and cannot vouch for any of these.

Discussion on Amazon about converting through email.

How to Optimize PDF’s for Kindle.

And When They Become Teenagers? Then What?

Cindy Foster of The Baptist Taliban blog explains why she no longer believes in spanking in, I’m Coming Out!

Along similar lines, Dara Stoltzfus has some interesting things to say about parenting teenagers in Spanking puts the parent in a bad autopilot mode…

And speaking of Dara, she also takes a very good look at the question, Does more spanking = less crime and delinquency?

A Look At Child Rearing In The Bible Lands

Samuel Martin looks at child-rearing in the Bible Lands both then and now in True Eastern Wisdom Is Coming West.

Seeking Peace

Samuel Martin asks us all to join him in praying for “the peace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on all under His sun suffering from family violence.”

Speaking of peace, Carissa Robinson encourages us to run to The Father with our problems for He will give us peace in Paideia, Part 3.

Children as Sinners?

Samuel Martin has the following to say about his essay, O Wretched Child that I am.

This text may be the most important New Testament scripture for those parents who have small children – I Corinthians 2:11. “For who knows a person’s thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him?” – Why? Read why here!

He also said this about the same post:

“At one year of age, man is a king, fondled and doted upon by all. At two and three he is a pig, groping in the garbage. At ten he prances around like a kid. At twenty he is a horse, preening himself in search of a wife.” – This post covers a lot of ground surrounding Paul’s view of himself and how we can especially relate that issue to how we view our children.

He also has an interesting look at child rearing in Biblical times:
One day we won’t have to keep them so close, but until then: Hang on tight – Part One
One day we won’t have to keep them so close, but until then: Hang on tight – Part Two

An Exampling of Parenting by Jesus

Dulce de Leche hosts a post by Samuel Martin on the topic of How Jesus Would Parent,  in which we look at an example of Jesus using Gentle Parenting.

Samuel Martin Looks at What The Bible Says About Spanking

Samuel Martin takes a look at what the Bible says about spanking in Christian Scholars and Preachers Disagree on Spanking Children.

Putting Our Children Above Others

Dulce de Leche continues her 10 Commandments for Parents series with 10 Commandments for Parents: Forsaking All Others.

 

Samuel Martin Still Trying To Open Dialog With Pro-Spankers

Samuel Martin continues to try to dialog with pro-spankers.  I’m not sure why he is having such a hard time finding someone who will take him up on this challenge.

Samuel Martin Wants Women’s Input

In Samuel Martin’s latest blog post: Women’s Intuition and Corporal Punishment: Did you feel intuitively that spanking/smacking your children was wrong? he asks women to go to http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5DQ6M3B and give him your input.

Seeking Pro-Spankers

Samuel Martin has posted the following on Facebook:

I want to connect with fundamentalist Christians advocating spanking kids who are willing to read my book with the view to show me how I am in error in my findings – So far all of the people who I have connected with have yet to give me specific written critique of my work, except one and that person did not even end up totally disagreeing with my work. Please if you have any connections with people who would be interested in seeing learning advanced, help me connect with those parties so we can start a greater debate on this issue. Hope to hear from you – info@biblechild.com

Please have interested parties email him at info@biblechild.com.

Update:  The book can be downloaded here.

A Look At The Spanking Controversy in Canada

The United Church Observer has published an article called, To Spank Or Not to Spank, by Sarah Boesveld about the spanking controversy in Canada.  While I am glad that the United Church of Canada has taken a public stand against spanking, I do not link to this as Christian arguments, but of interest as a news story.  Canadian Evangelical, C.L. Dyke of Scita Scienda, explains why in a comment  which I will reproduce here.

The greater context to this is that the UCC is a denomination which has thrown out orthodox (I use the word generically, not denominationally) Christian doctrine in favour of unbridled humanism. They actively disavow the deity of Jesus Christ and the authority of the Bible–scripture is a text to be interpreted by today’s shifting social customs, and filtered for generic principles common to human decency, rather than a narrative deserving of the same respect and scholarly approach as any other ancient text.

The quote in the article about supporting the oppressed lines up to this:

–Support anti-spanking

–Support homosexual advocacy and lobbying

–Support abortion (hmm, an interesting clash of principle occurs here)

–Reject the deity of Jesus Christ and His calling upon humankind to repent of sin and accept personal, substitutionary salvation based on Christ’s atonement; eject pastors who preach it.

Meanwhile, Canadian law is already very pro-child.

In writ, it is illegal to spank under the age of 2 or over the age of 12; it is illegal to leave so much as a red mark; it is illegal to spank with an implement.

In practice, spanking of any kind has the potential to incur social services intervention.

As someone who is anti-Pearl and pro-attached/gentle parenting, but not anti-spanking across the board, I feel the scales are already sufficiently balanced against the principles of individual freedom in our country’s legal system.

While the compassion expressed for Hana Williams’ horrific death is only appropriate, the UCC’s word is pretty tainted to me as a Canadian evangelical. I’m not sure how we are to see the brokenness of humanity healed without Christ.

The UCC’s solution is moral relativism and socialism. Given the (for now) fringe push on the far left to accept pedophilia under the guise of “children’s sexual rights,” that approach doesn’t avail for me as a guarantor of children’s rights and safety in this life, all eternal considerations aside.

 

Disassociating Corporal and Eternal Punishment

Samuel Martin looks at Corporal and Eternal Punishment in 3 parts:

Corporal and Eternal Punishment: Time to disconnect these two ideas once and for all – Part One
Corporal and Eternal Punishment: Time to disconnect these two ideas once and for all – Part Two
Corporal and Eternal Punishment: Time to disconnect these two ideas once and for all – Part Three

Get a Free PDF of Samuel Martin’s Book

Author Samuel Martin says in his latest blog post that he is now willing to send a free PDF of his book, Thy Rod and Thy Staff They Comfort Me: Christians And The Spanking Controversy to anyone who emails him at info@biblechild.com to request it.
Edited to add:  Samuel Martin says,

I just saw on Amazon that hard copies of my book are selling for $207.33 US Dollars. Can that be possible? I can tell you that that is not right. If you do like to get a hard copy of my book (Thy Rod and Thy Staff, They Comfot Me: Christians and the Spanking Controversy – The first edition is still in print, but not for much longer), just call 1 800 204 2063 – Archives Book Shop – A great source for all of your new and used Christian book needs. But my free ebook is still free and remains free until corporal punishment/smacking/spanking of children ends – write info@biblechild.com to get yours.

Update: The free ebook version of the book is now available for download.

Beat Your Child To Save Him From Hell?

Samuel Martin has posted an extended excerpt from Chapter 7 of his book, Thy Rod and Thy Staff, They Comfort Me: Christians and the Spanking Controversy, in which he looks at Proverbs 23:13-14, “Do not withhold correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell.”

By the way, someone told me that they were having a problem finding where to purchase Samuel Martin’s book because on Amazon they are charging $90.  Well, you may purchase it here for under $11.

Edited to add: You can now download Samuel Martin’s Book free here.  🙂

What We Can Learn From Modern Translations of The Bible

Samuel Martin explains why we should consider reading modern translations of the Bible when seeking to understand Proverbs 19:18.

Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying. (Proverbs 19:18 – King James Version)

Rebuttal to Pearl’s Statement About “Traditional Child Training.”

Samuel Martin has posted a rebuttal to a quote Pearl made during his debate with Janet Heimlich in The Christian Post.